
Before you read any further, you should know that the deworming program I’m about to tell you about is not recommended or endorsed by Valley Vet Supply. If you have goats, you’ve probably grown accustomed to using products in an off-label manner. Very few products are labeled for goats, and those that are labeled for goats may be used in a different way by “real goat people” than the label advises. I think that most goat producers learn as they go and pick up valuable advice from people who’ve been in the same situation.

So, having made that disclaimer, I will tell you about my goats and the goat deworming program that husband Tim and I use. We have 20 Boer-Spanish cross nannies, each one special, each one with a name, much to Tim’s dismay. Around 3 years ago, I learned about the deworming success some producers were having by using the
Copasure bolus in goats. Each Copasure bolus contains thousands of tiny copper oxide wire particles (COWP). Boluses are administered with a
small balling gun, which is much easier than I feared. When the bolus reaches the goat’s stomach, the gelatin capsule disolves, releasing the copper particles into the goat’s stomachs. The small particles become trapped in the folds of the abomasum. Research has shown that the particles remain in the stomach for up to 32 days, but the copper absorbed into the liver appears to protect the animal from copper deficiency for 4 to 6 months.COWP appear to be almost immediately toxic to the barberpole worm (Haemonchus contortus).
Barberpole worms are of particular concern because they are the internal parasite that is most likely to cause anemia and death in goats. Their life cycle is short and they thrive in warm, wet conditions like those of spring pastures.These internal parasites attach themselves to the goat’s stomach, robbing it of blood. Adult female worms produce eggs that are passed out in manure. The larvae typically develop on grass, which infects more goats as it is eaten. Because the barberpole worm’s life cycle is only 3 weeks long, contamination and infection develop quickly. When the worm burden is not controlled, goats can become anemic, which can lead to death.

Copasure is not labeled for goats, but there have been many studies regarding its use. Various dosages have been researched in various climates and conditions. Most studies use a dosage between 1 gram Copasure per 22 lbs body weight, and on up to 12.5 grams Copasure per mature animal.
Copasure is sold in two sizes, 12.5 gram bolus and 25 gram bolus. We give one 12.5 gram bolus per adult goat, each spring and fall. Many producers who want to dose smaller kids, or dose at a lower rate, will take apart the large Copasure bolus and repack the COWP into smaller
gelatin capsules, at their desired dosage rate.
In addition to its deworming capacity, Copasure provides a supplemental dose of copper that really seems to benefit our goats. They have never looked slicker, shinier or more healthy. Because Copasure doesn’t kill all of the worms a goat is succeptible to, we also deworm with
Dectomax injectable (also off-label). We use the FAMACHA guide to monitor eye membrane color and determine when to use Dectomax.
Lori H Additional resources:
Journal of Animal Science
Do you use copasure and dectamax at the same time
Posted by: paula.crews | Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 09:59 PM
Which size gelatin capsule works best with the small balling gun?
Posted by: Mary | Wednesday, September 04, 2013 at 10:40 AM
Nikki, The end of the balling gun needs to go to the back of the tongue, past the back teeth. It would be difficult to get the gun in much further, so it's easier than it sounds. You'll know if you haven't gone far enough because they'll either spit out or chew up the bolus. We usually dip the balling gun into water each time. Seems easier for them to swallow the bolus this way. We use an injectable wormer as needed, probably every 3 months. We watch the eye membrane color for signs of anemia.
Posted by: Lori Hill | Monday, May 07, 2012 at 08:15 AM
I have a question when using the small balling gun, how far down do you have to push the balling gun to get the pill in them? We have a lot of iron in our water and our goats cant get the copper they need so we are going to use the Copasure bolus. But not sure how to use the balling gun( or how far to push it down them). We now orally worm every three months. How often do you give the injectable?
Posted by: Nikki | Monday, May 07, 2012 at 12:27 AM
Nichole,
If their eye membranes are pink, you most likely don't have a problem with worms at the moment. That's good news! Like you, I've also found that different goats adapt differently to the same environment. They're a lot like horses....some are "easy keepers" and some aren't. You might find that some need to be dewormed and/or have their diet supplemented more than others. It sounds like you're on the right track!
Posted by: Lori Hill | Wednesday, April 25, 2012 at 08:27 AM
Another update...
I nearly finished off the farnam weight builder that I was giving in combination with the calf mana and pellets. My gal whose been here the longest thus far and is also the healthiest put on a good about of weight, though she wasn't missing much. It's amazing how easily she put it on and keeps it on all while being pregnant! My Saanen gal who was the reason for contacting in the first place has put on a good amount of weight as well and despite kidding a couple weeks ago (gorgeous white blue eyed baby girl!) not to mention she's a heavy producer and making over a gallon a day (I put the babies up and milk in the morning) plus ALL the babies (6) keep trying to get milk off her each chance they get, she's maintained the weight. She hasn't put on any more weight though so I'm not sure what else to give her to keep her gaining during lactation.... As for her coat it didn't do much till a week and a half ago when I gave her some cod liver oil in her feed, in a few days she seemed to have better looking skin and had more fur beginning to come in all over. Seeing the improvement, I gave her another dose after 3 days and again saw more improvement in skin and coat so now I'm planning to give it every few days. Her baby is growing like a weed as are the other babies (she even took in one of the triplets that Ginger had but refused to nurse) her little one is named Melody and is crossed with a nigerian dwarf so she's built stockier than the other dairy babes.
If goats are still having an issue with worms, wouldn't it stand to reason that those still are not sufficient in copper? Or is it that a goat needs to adjust to become accustomed to the worms on different properties, sorta like people with allergies when they go to a new place?
I don't think mine are dealing with worms necessarily since they are all red in the eyelids but I can't help but wonder what the difference is between my togg gal whose been here 1.5 years and my saanen gal whose been here nearly a year and not holding or putting on weight as well as the togg. I mean, I stopped giving my togg gal the feed since she'd gained again and hasn't lost a drop since stopping a couple weeks ago. She does well on browse so I choose not to supplement her with feed cause I want a herd of goats that aren't grain dependent.
Posted by: Nichole | Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 08:45 AM
What is the milk withdrawal time with the dectomax
Posted by: Shelly Johnson | Tuesday, March 27, 2012 at 04:56 AM
So Lori, it's now been 16 days and I wanted to report back again to let ya know that my girl is really putting on weight now, she's still bony, but got some "meat" along her backbone now and it's starting to cover her bony hips, her ribs are also feeling more "meaty". She lost the fur all up her snout and it was bare, now there is peach fuzz growing over it, not all but about half so far, her fur is looking better too, I think she's got peach fuzz going under the coarse coat now since I can't see her skin as well now. Her udder has filled out more too so it looks like she'll probably kid within the next week or so and I'm hoping she gets more weight on before that and keeps putting it on after the baby is born. If she keeps gaining at this rate I expect her to look like a brand new goat in another month or so. My other goats who were thinner have also put the weight back on, a couple still needing more which I'm thinking is because they are also pregnant.
Anyhow, I just wanted to share, I'm so glad She is doing so well and the others are looking and feeling great, I appreciate your help and encouragement and will update again soon.
Thanks!!
Posted by: Nichole | Sunday, March 25, 2012 at 06:37 PM
Nichole,
Sounds like you're making good progress! You can feed each goat up to 1/2 lb of Calf Manna per day, which is quite a bit of volume. It would be great if you could split off those that need it most and make sure they get their fair share in a second feeding. They'll be happy! My goats love the Calf Manna pellets.
Posted by: Lori Hill | Friday, March 16, 2012 at 08:33 AM
Well, it's day six and I have noticed a difference for my Saanen girl, not too much in weight just feels like theres a bit more along the back but today I pet her and noticed her fur felt softer. So far still brittle but going from rough to having a softer feel to it seems like a good sign to me and I just wanted to keep ya updated on it. I had one quick question to ask, do most people feed the calf manna only once a day or is it ok to feed the ones who need extra twice a day? Just curious if this could help her along a little more as I noticed her bag is starting to fill with milk and thought she may need something extra to help herself, grow the baby/babies AND fill her udder... Thanks!!
Posted by: Nichole | Thursday, March 15, 2012 at 10:46 PM
Nichole,
Hopefully everyone will be healthy, fat and shiny in no time!
Posted by: Lori Hill | Monday, March 12, 2012 at 08:30 AM
Ok Lori, I got the copasure about 15 minutes ago and got each of them dosed up except the male cause he runs like heck when you try to get ahold of him and being preggo and all, well I'm not gonna chase him, He's the healthiest of the bunch anyways : ) Anyhow, I also stopped at the tractor supply and picked up the calf manna that you suggested along with some Farnam weight builder as I read stellar reviews from lots of horse owners, sure, it's meant for horses but apparently the flax in it is really good to use on horses that are hard keepers, so I figure it can't hurt anything but the wallet to add that in. I gave everybody a dose of both this morning, basically putting about 4 hands full of the calf manna in a big feed bowl with two scoops of the weight builder and some pellets too, mixed it up and let them all go at it. I'll do this everyday for the next month but am hoping to see some results in the next couple weeks based on info about each of the products. My Saanen is the one in need of most weight but the rest could use the help due to losing some weight in the winter. I'll post back here and keep you updated and I'll try to get some before and after pics to show the huge difference that all of this does.
Thanks so much for your help and I was really grateful for the phone call as well : )
Posted by: Nichole | Friday, March 09, 2012 at 03:30 PM
Nichole, I would expect the copper boluses to improve some of your issues. They should certainly improve any issues with barberpole worms, which are the worms that often cause anemia and death. You may have some other nutritional issues at play here too. If you've eliminated lice as a factor in the hair loss, we should look at nutrition next. I'm not familiar with the vitamin/mineral or nutrition content in molasses. It may contain too little or too much of a nutrient for this goat to tolerate. We've had good results turning around thin, poor growers by adding Calf Manna pellets and a quality goat mineral to their diets. Calf Manna is high in protein, and can help put on healthy weight fairly quickly. For goats, start slowly with up to 1/4 lb daily and work your way up to 1/2 lb daily. We give the goat mineral free choice. Either Purina or Manna Pro are good. I would suggest making the dietary changes somewhat slowly so that their bodies have time to adjust. Good Luck!
Posted by: Lori Hill | Thursday, March 08, 2012 at 03:18 PM
I have a goat that I think is copper deficient, she's saanen and I just found out tonight that she's pregnant and I think that may explain the extreme hairloss she's gone through the past month or so. Her fur coat is terribly thin, I can see her pink skin with spots through the fur and the coat itself is very coarse almost and maybe even brittle like. She is thinner based on feeling along her spine, in that way her spine and hips are obviously bony feeling and looking but she seems to keep meat on her ribs just fine as I can barely see an indentation from them. When I got her she had hoof problems with her back hooves, they were mis-shapen one foot flailing out to the left and the other foot the toes curling in on themselves. I at first researched and read it was a zinc deficiency but tonight read that it's caused by copper deficiency. Half of my goats have issues with worms which I've struggled to control naturally. So my question is, does it sound like copper deficiency to you as well? Is it safe to give them all a copper bolus even the ones that appear to be healthy with the exception of weight loss which could be attributed to the winter and the fact that I don't feed grain but offer molasses free choice. I am unsure of my area and the deficiencies it may have but I'm in butler county ohio if that helps at all. I appreciate your input and the time to read this.
Nichole
Posted by: Nichole | Wednesday, March 07, 2012 at 10:09 PM
Michelle, It is not labeled for use in goats, but we use Dectomax Injectable. We give it as an SQ injection at 1.5 ml per 100 lbs. The combination of Copasure, with Dectomax as needed, is our preference. We've had virtually no sickness or anemia since switching to this program 3 years ago.
One more thought-we always deworm nannies with Dectomax within the first 48 hours after kidding, no matter when they were last dewormed.
Posted by: Lori Hill | Monday, January 30, 2012 at 10:27 AM
What dose do you use for the Dectomax? Do you use any other wormers or is this the only protical you are using?
Posted by: Michelle Ruedy | Friday, January 27, 2012 at 07:30 PM
Jenny, We have given it during pregnancy without incident. Most research studies use a dosage of 1 gm Copasure per 22 lbs body weight.
Posted by: Lori Hill | Monday, January 23, 2012 at 09:06 AM
Can you give copper bolus to a pregnant goat, due in March 2012? She has a bare tail end fishtail? Thanks
Posted by: Jenny | Saturday, January 21, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Jim, We typically use Copasure in just adult goats. They weigh approx 100-125 lbs. We give one 12.5 gm bolus per adult. According to our veterinarian, "wow, that's plenty". Most studies are researching a dosage of 1 gm Copasure per 22 lbs body weight. Many people use this rate in kids and adults, and it may be a good starting point for you to consider. If we went with the researched dose, we would break down a 12.5 gm bolus and use about 1/2 bolus per adult. We have at times used the 1 gm per 22 lb rate in bigger kids. Generally, we've found that if you can break the life cycle of the barberpole worm by using Copasure in the adults, there are minimal viable eggs for the young kids to pick up.
Posted by: Lori Hill | Monday, January 16, 2012 at 11:32 AM
What weight goat are you using the full 12.5 gram bolus with? What age/weight goat do you break down the bolus into a smaller dosage?
Posted by: Jim Taylor | Monday, January 16, 2012 at 10:45 AM